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Post by High_Gene on Jun 21, 2012 7:17:01 GMT -5
I wish I had 350 tix for cards in form of 0s and 1s... But I agree with GrumpyOldGamer. I'd go for at least two decks for diversity.
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Post by yugular on Jun 21, 2012 11:48:41 GMT -5
So, do you have anything specific in mind? Martyr and Storm are in my mind atm. Other than that no idea yet...
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Post by kyroswolf on Jun 21, 2012 16:20:34 GMT -5
Storm is super fun and at least used to be one of the more budget versions. You could run it off Sulfur Falls, Scalding Tarn, and just one Steam Vents. Rest of the cards are oh so cheap. Also Pyromasters Ascension ranks as my favorite card....ever.
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Post by grumpyoldgamer on Jun 21, 2012 19:00:59 GMT -5
So, do you have anything specific in mind? Martyr and Storm are in my mind atm. Other than that no idea yet... Most Storm decks in Modern default to Past in Flames at this point. You usually run 3 of these, plus 12 rituals (Desperate Ritual, Pyretic Ritual and Seething Song), 8 blue cantrips (Serum Visions and Sleight of Hand), Gitaxian Probe and/or Manamorphose, plus your actual win-con. Add the lands and you still have a few open slots for customization. Some people like to add Green or Black to the color palette for main/sideboard options, and cards like Desperate Ravings, Faithless Looting and Thought Scour and making their way in the 'Core' of the deck more and more. Some version of the deck run both Grapeshot and Empty the Warrens, some run Pyromancer Ascension and some Pyromancer's Swath. The latter two cost less than a tix each - Swath is actually under 0.20 tix right now. Everything else is either an inexpensive Common/Uncommon or Past in Flames, which is currently at about 3.40 tix. The manabase is obviously the most expensive aspect of the deck. You probably need a couple of Steam Vents (14.40 tix/ea) and a full set of Scalding Tarn (5.65 tix/ea). The rest can be a mix of basics, Shivan Reefs (2.60 tix) and Sulfur Falls (2.05 tix). You can't cheat too much on the manabase when it comes to Storm. The deck is already unreliable, you don't want your manabase to be unreliable too. There are several good lists online, and you can find a decent primer on the MtGS forums. The good thing with the deck is that you can easily branch into Splinter Twin. Both archetype share a fair amount of cards, especially with the manabase. The most expensive non-land card in Splinter Twin is Kiki-Jiki (6.20 tix/ea), and if you run it - which you don't have to - you only need about two copies. The deck's namesake is currently about 1.40 tix. So between these and the Exarchs, you can build Storm, add an extra 25 tix on top and get a second UR deck. Sweet! Martyr is another deck which provides several options. You can build it as an aggro-based Soul Sisters decks, or as a more aggro-control-ish Martyr-Proc deck. Like Storm you can build one and build the next for only a few extra tix. There are no real expensive cards in either version of the Martyr deck. Most are under a tix each, and several hover around 0.25-0.50. The only expensive one is Proclamation of Rebirth, which cost about 5.75 tix at the moment. But as I mentioned in a previous post, you probably only want a couple in a Soul Sisters build, and possibly an extra one for a straight Martyr-Proc deck. The manabase is also very cheap. The classic Emeria, the Sky Ruin plan (2x Emeria, 2x Mistveil Plains, 4x Ghost Quarter, 4x Flagstones of Trokair, plus Plains) will cost you a grand total of 2.50 tix. Again there are a ton of list online for either Soul Sisters or Martyr-Proc. MtGS is always an option if you can deal with the crowd, and I also like MtG Pulse. You may also want to take a look at Modern Death and Taxes if you like to attack with angry white men. I've been reading up on the deck over the last couple of days, and I like what I see. Except for those cards currently valid in Standard like Blade Splicer and Restoration Angel - which are far from being deck staples - everything is dirt cheap. Good luck! Oh and, if you ever need to test...
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Post by kyroswolf on Jun 22, 2012 9:58:24 GMT -5
My favorite version of UR Storm in Modern didn't run Past in Flames. You run your same UR land base, 4x Pyromancer's Ascension, and the same dig cards. Now you drop Grapeshot and Empty the Warrens. In comes Noxious Revival, Thought Scour, and Lightning Bolt. Whole plan is to get the Ascension active and play the entire deck in 1 turn or so, ending with multiple active ascensions and bolts to your opponent's face. Since most players take 5 to 10 damage off their fetch/shock lands you don't have to worry about the full 20 damage.
Marty White was probably my 2nd favorite deck from the last Modern season. Very fun and just Timmy enough to keep me happy.
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Post by grumpyoldgamer on Jun 22, 2012 11:16:59 GMT -5
My favorite version of UR Storm in Modern didn't run Past in Flames. You run your same UR land base, 4x Pyromancer's Ascension, and the same dig cards. Now you drop Grapeshot and Empty the Warrens. In comes Noxious Revival, Thought Scour, and Lightning Bolt. (...) At that point however, you're no longer playing a Storm deck but a dedicated Pyromancer Ascension deck. The two are different. You can play Pyromancer Ascension in a Storm deck for added value, but if you're not playing Grapeshot or Empty the Warrens, you're not playing a Storm deck.
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Post by kyroswolf on Jun 22, 2012 12:59:13 GMT -5
I call a Pyro ascension deck a "storm" deck in that it follows the vein of casting a cubic F-ton of spells in a single turn, even though it doesn't actually use the storm mechanic.
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Post by grumpyoldgamer on Jun 22, 2012 17:20:14 GMT -5
I call a Pyro ascension deck a "storm" deck in that it follows the vein of casting a cubic F-ton of spells in a single turn, even though it doesn't actually use the storm mechanic. Fair enough. And obviously, if Matti is looking to build a U/R Combo deck and not strictly a Storm deck, Pyromancer Ascension is a valid option too.
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Post by yugular on Jul 6, 2012 14:31:12 GMT -5
Finally I got the tickets. 360 total Time to buy some modern stuff. I will definitely buy Storm cards, but other than that I am still unsure...
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Post by yugular on Jul 30, 2012 5:27:32 GMT -5
Finally bought the remaining Fetchlands... Now I have a full playset of each Zendikar fetchland and 1-of's of all shocklands from Ravnica (Well I have a full playset of the Izzet one for my Storm deck). So my manabase for Modern is looking pretty competent at this point
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Post by grumpyoldgamer on Jul 30, 2012 5:42:48 GMT -5
Yeah, that's pretty much all you need. You may want a second copy of certain Shocklands depending on what you build and a few Buddylands and/or Filterlands here and there, but IMHO the only mandatory playsets you need are for the Fetchlands. They do a lot of work.
Damn you guys are giving me the itch. I can't wait to start playing again.
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Post by yugular on Dec 9, 2012 2:18:13 GMT -5
Time to invest more. RTR Shocklands are pretty cheap at the moment. All between 3-4tix and I doubt they will be much cheaper ever. So I am buying myself 3-4 of each. I already have one of everything and a playset of Steam Vents.
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Post by grumpyoldgamer on Dec 9, 2012 9:23:52 GMT -5
Indeed. They are very affordable online right now.
We should try to get something going next year Matti. I'll be dropping off the internet for the next few weeks thanks to the holiday season and all, but comes January... yeah. Cube is great, but it's time to start playing normal Magic again.
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Post by yugular on Mar 23, 2013 4:16:41 GMT -5
Managed to get a playset of Snapcasters for 24 tix. That is a decent price I expect them to be worth 10tix a piece in few years, especially if the older formats ever catch on in mtgo.
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Post by Fan of History on Mar 27, 2013 5:42:36 GMT -5
Time to invest more. RTR Shocklands are pretty cheap at the moment. All between 3-4tix and I doubt they will be much cheaper ever. So I am buying myself 3-4 of each. I already have one of everything and a playset of Steam Vents. I bought 60 in December, before the Dragon's maze announcement. I still think they are good buy at 3 tix, as are the GTC lands (which may possible come out of it all a little more expensive than the RTR lands. My suggestion if you want to invest in Modern is Scalding Tarn and MIsty Rainforest. They are the new premier lands in Modern. They were recently drafted. They are not in Modern Masters and come next Modern PTQ Season there will be twice the number of Modern players as WOTC is pushing Modern Masters and the format. Buy them now. They could go as high as 20-30 tix in 2-3 yrs
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