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Post by yugular on Jan 9, 2012 12:13:51 GMT -5
What cards you expect to have impact on pauper from DKA? MTGS spoiler: mtgsalvation.com/dark-ascension-spoiler.htmlSo far I am excited about these cards: This card fits really well on my standard pauper deck! Ditch those stupid lands and draw burn. I am also curious if Gather the Townsfolk will be good enough to be included in sideboard? Maybe not... Also the green spell that places +1/+1 counters is interesting, if it really is instant like spoiled!
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Post by dougbiss on Jan 9, 2012 12:49:46 GMT -5
I'll be the first to confess that I do not do well when evaluating cards with this effect, but it seems to me that I would almost always rather have some other card in my deck than this card if I'm playing red. Thinking about best case situation, you're still paying one mana to draw a card and then need to discard two, right? Because if you weren't playing this, you would have drawn one of those two cards to begin with. I don't see flashback as changing this equation much, because that has to mean that even after playing this card once (unless it was discarded to begin with) you STILL have two cards you don't mind swapping out, and three surplus mana, at sorcery speed.
And how often do you have a surplus of cards when playing red? I never do... I'm always looking at an empty hand by turn 4, it seems.
This card might help Storm, though... couldn't say as I haven't run the deck yet. Does Storm need one more card to cycle through and dump those lands?
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Post by yugular on Jan 9, 2012 13:30:00 GMT -5
Faithless Looting is good if: a) You have surplus lands in your hand. Happens some times. b) You need that specific card. FL lets you choose the best card for you out of 4 cards, for one mana investment!
Granted it isn't becoming staple, but I can see myself running one or two of these in my standard pauper build.
About Storm I am unsure, I don't play Storm...
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Post by dougbiss on Jan 9, 2012 13:52:21 GMT -5
b) You need that specific card. FL lets you choose the best card for you out of 4 cards, for one mana investment! I'm sure you're right, but it seems to me that you already have two of those four cards in your hand... and you would have drawn another of those four instead of the Faithless Looting, so it could also be looked at as simply drawing a card, then needing to discard two. Like I said, I'm not good at evaluating that type of card, so it's almost certainly better than I think it is, and there's no question that it's a great way to cycle land if you end up in that position.
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Post by yugular on Jan 9, 2012 16:40:12 GMT -5
You are right dougbiss. The ability isn't far from just drawing a card, but you do see more cards even though! You see faithless looting + two other cards = total of three. In your case you would only see one.
But yeah it isn't AWESOME, it's just something new for red and possibly worth testing for, at leasti in standard pauper. I don't see it in classic pauper, but who knows. Card evaluation (without testing) isn't one of my strong abilities either! Maybe in cube environment, but not in costructed!
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Post by yugular on Jan 11, 2012 5:22:36 GMT -5
Just listened episode #30 of the PttP. Chris, Mike and Nate all thought Faithless Looting will effect the format but didn't really discuss about it. Hopefully we will hear their thoughts in here instead Also Mike mentioned just shortly that Hunger of the Howlpack might or might not be a card for infect. Let's see: So it is only a +1/+1 permanent pump without morbid. And we can all agree that that is unplayable in constructed, right? Infect tries to win with one or two swings and 1/2 poison won't make the difference. However if morbid is on, it gets +3/+3 instead, which is a lot! But morbid isn't good for infect. Most of the time you have only one or two creatures on the battlefield, your plan can't be that one of them dies. And if the morbid trigger comes from opposing player it comes through combat, since infect doesn't play removal. Because of that the value from the card is gained in the future turns, not in the turn it is played, unlike all other pump spells. I am curious to see what happens, but I am not putting the card in without serious playtesting for sure!
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Post by ANZ on Jan 11, 2012 17:45:03 GMT -5
These cards are from Dark Ascencion, not Avacyn Restored.
I am of the opinion that Hunger of the Howlpack is not good in infect, for the very same reasons you listed, Yugular. It sucks without morbid, and to activate the morbid is too hard for infect.
I actually think this card is just unplayable in constructed.
Faithless Looting is going to be awesome. I imagine some madness brew with it doing really really well. No real idea of what to put in, but i thinkk it has great potential.
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Post by yugular on Jan 11, 2012 18:30:48 GMT -5
These cards are from Dark Ascencion, not Avacyn Restored. Whoops! My bad lol
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Post by ANZ on Jan 11, 2012 18:49:32 GMT -5
Its fine lol
I can hardly wait for todays spoilers!
Also, shouldnt we do a thread for each card? Or would that be spammin?
Cause i kinda did that...
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Post by yugular on Jan 12, 2012 3:36:47 GMT -5
Its fine lol I can hardly wait for todays spoilers! Also, shouldnt we do a thread for each card? Or would that be spammin? Cause i kinda did that... Let's keep it in one thread, unless there is really something specific that will affect the format a lot. This way it is easier to read all the dicsussion about DKA cards. Also I will delete the whole board where you posted the individual threads, that board is part of the old structure and will vanish once all changes are done to the forums. Sorry for inconvenience.
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Post by yugular on Jan 12, 2012 12:06:46 GMT -5
It is also interesting to see if we can see Faithless Looting in some "graveyard matters" kind of BR deck for example... I am also considering adding it to the cube because it is so sweet
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Post by kennon on Jan 18, 2012 17:56:50 GMT -5
So who else is pretty excited for the DA spoilers so far in regards to Pauper? It looks to me like White Weenie is getting a few cool options, and the there will likely be some much more effective common werewolves to experiment with. And of course, who can forget Faithless Looting?
Any thoughts on the cards so far? I'll likely come back with comments soon on the particular cards that we've seen that interest me.
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Post by RockBass on Jan 18, 2012 18:41:45 GMT -5
Faithless Looting is going to be incredible, in my opinion, and Loyal Cathar has merit as well.
FLING got reprinted?!
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Post by yugular on Jan 19, 2012 6:04:49 GMT -5
Tragic Slip B
Instant Target creature gets -1/-1 until end of turn. Morbid - that creature gets -13/-13 instead if a creature died this turn.
1 mana instant speed removal, although very conditional. This will see play?
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Post by mikeyk159 on Jan 19, 2012 16:16:17 GMT -5
Tragic Slip B Instant Target creature gets -1/-1 until end of turn. Morbid - that creature gets -13/-13 instead if a creature died this turn. 1 mana instant speed removal, although very conditional. This will see play? It looks so good on paper. Sadly I don't think it will. I think disfigure is just better for the -2/-2. Also there is a card from 5th dawn that -1/-1 and scrys.
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