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Post by nyukon on Nov 3, 2012 1:37:47 GMT -5
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warr
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Post by warr on Nov 4, 2012 10:14:12 GMT -5
Hey everyone, long time listener, first time caller. Really enjoy the show but I finally registered because I'm concerned with how you sometimes dismiss new technology or brews, most recently with regards to the 8-land enchantment deck. If you look back through the history of Magic, 9-land stompy was a semi-legit deck and even though I think 8 lands (and no access to Elvish Spirit guide) is aggressive, the extra draw from several of the cards makes any hand with 1 land/land grant a keeper.
I believe you also said similar things when you first checked a mono-black rats list that included the tech of 8 cycling lands to replace dead draws in the late game. If you look at the meta now, most mono-black decks that top the dailies use that mana base. Gone are the days of 20+ lands and corrupts and even crypt rats is less common than it used to be.
That said, I still love your show. You guys have good chemistry (even with Mike on) and it's good to hear a point of view that features the brewing available in the format.
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Post by RockBass on Nov 4, 2012 11:32:12 GMT -5
Hey everyone, long time listener, first time caller. Really enjoy the show but I finally registered because I'm concerned with how you sometimes dismiss new technology or brews, most recently with regards to the 8-land enchantment deck. If you look back through the history of Magic, 9-land stompy was a semi-legit deck and even though I think 8 lands (and no access to Elvish Spirit guide) is aggressive, the extra draw from several of the cards makes any hand with 1 land/land grant a keeper. I believe you also said similar things when you first checked a mono-black rats list that included the tech of 8 cycling lands to replace dead draws in the late game. If you look at the meta now, most mono-black decks that top the dailies use that mana base. Gone are the days of 20+ lands and corrupts and even crypt rats is less common than it used to be. That said, I still love your show. You guys have good chemistry (even with Mike on) and it's good to hear a point of view that features the brewing available in the format. Great to have you on, caller. Thanks for listening. I apologize if we sound dismissive. Usually, my train of thought when I encounter decks like that is "Woah, that seems different." And when I run the show notes by the other hosts, I try to get a feel for what they think of it, and I structure my responses accordingly, in an attempt to create conversation. So, the 8-land deck. Peter was excited about it, so I wanted to play devil's advocate and start from an opposing place about it, and address my concerns, like the mulligan strategy. I've found we get our best conversations going that way. Thank you so much for listening. In the future, we'll try to make sure people understand that we're not trying to shit on a deck, or it's pilot. We simply want to make sure we address what we view as potential negatives, as well as any positives.
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Post by jcrodd7776 on Nov 7, 2012 12:47:19 GMT -5
MIKEYK IS BACK AND HIS EXCUSE WAS THAT HE WAS BUSY PLAYING HEIRLOOM ON GATHERLING!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sounds to me like he has been seduced by the hardcore PAUPERKREW and has sworn his allegiance to them and has been sent back to recruit for them (ALA sgt brody on HOMELAND)((kinda))
BTW Mikey still have no idea what heirloom is by your description but will look it up based on your recomendation
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Post by mikeyk159 on Nov 7, 2012 18:03:13 GMT -5
MIKEYK IS BACK AND HIS EXCUSE WAS THAT HE WAS BUSY PLAYING HEIRLOOM ON GATHERLING!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sounds to me like he has been seduced by the hardcore PAUPERKREW and has sworn his allegiance to them and has been sent back to recruit for them (ALA sgt brody on HOMELAND)((kinda)) BTW Mikey still have no idea what heirloom is by your description but will look it up based on your recomendation I plead the 5th.
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Post by jcrodd7776 on Nov 8, 2012 13:24:10 GMT -5
Ha! Mikey just messin with you Glad to hear your voice and of course your insite on all things magic.
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Post by mikeyk159 on Nov 8, 2012 14:09:28 GMT -5
Ha! Mikey just messin with you Glad to hear your voice and of course your insite on all things magic. Thank you man, it feels good to be back:)
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