This is the thread to post ideas about making the next league better, and to give your opinion on how League #1 is going. Remember, be honest, as I can handle constructive criticism.
I'll go first. I'm a little disappointed in the fact that some people aren't able to get in touch with their opponents. My gut feeling is that this is in response to how long it took to get the event going after announcing it. All we can really do is award wins for no-shows and proceed from there. What is encouraging is the amount of people we have who are active and trying to make the whole thing work. I appreciate all of it.
Don't worry, I'm not discouraged from keeping these types of things going.
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My gut feeling is that this is in response to how long it took to get the event going after announcing it.
This is the reason I guess. If one user fails to play many rounds during league #n we could ban him from the next league (league #n+1)?
Anyways the league is just starting up and I think we will have good league in the end. Just in case I would do slighlty fixed pairings for round2 and arrange it so that no-shows are paired against each others. If someone fails to do 3-4 rounds in a row he could be dropped from the current league also?
Post by grumpyoldgamer on Jan 19, 2012 19:09:40 GMT -5
I agree that the delay might have caused problems, but starting the league during the holidays would likely have been worse. I have faith that this will pick up.
For the second season, there were talks of doing something special with the Pauper Krew and I think that it could be a good option. The clan could benefit from it and gain new members, and the podcast could get more listeners. Just putting the information out there can definitely help.
Another valide option: bribe the players! ;D Seriously, prize support could help. People like free stuff.
All in all though, I don't think that there are anything specific that should be done to make the league better. Obviously, a few things will likely need to be adjusted here or there over time, but just making sure that the league is a regular event that pauper players can get into is one of the best thing which can be done for it. Consistency is key here I think.
This is something I wrote up for a league we were trying to get setup at PDC, sponsored by our clan:
Let me describe what we would like to create and why. The goal is to create an open pauper league with more flexibility for players who cannot attend the 5+ hour long events that the other leagues provide. I’m a good example of this as I do well enough in matches that I usually get into the elimination rounds, but by then it is too late for me to continue. I’ve experienced this locally at FNM and I see the trend continuing onto MTGO now that I’m online again. This makes me not want to play in the events both because I cannot win, and also because it isn’t fair to other players for me to drop in the elimination rounds, giving someone an undeserved free pass. I don’t think I’m alone with respect to having limited playtime, and I’ve come up with something that may enable players like me to be competitive in an event series despite this.
What we are proposing is a league in the more traditional MTGO sense. (Do you remember when they had online sealed deck leagues?) The league would still have scheduled times of the week like a traditional PDC event, possibly twice a week, but it would not have the complete tournament structure. This would help get players together to play, by having a schedule and externally generated pairings, but it would have more flexibility for people who have to leave early or show up late. As an example, I can envision an event held twice a week, starting at a specific time, consisting of 4 or 5 rounds of play with no elimination. There would be no event winner, but standings would be cumulative from event to event creating a season that would lead to an 8 person elimination event at season end. There would be no reason a player would be required to play in every event, or even every round of an event, and late entry need not be penalized. Decks need not be the same from event to event, but should be constant within each event. I imagine a season would be quite short, enabling players to reset their standings after every 6-8 events or so… otherwise interest would decrease quickly as players fell back in the standings and were mathematically eliminated. This also works out, conveniently, to one season per month.
Standings could be generated based on a 3pt win, 1pt loss system. A player who plays all 4 rounds of every event and loses often can still be competitive by being prolific, yet a very strong player who misses a few rounds, or even events, will still be dominant in the standings. Given the short seasons it would be easy enough to rotate through formats as well, to give additional variety. Standard, Modern and Classic in rotation could also create a Triple Crown, of sorts.
As for prizes, we were thinking there would be a weekly door prize to encourage attendance, perhaps a weekly prize for perfect records in that event, and then larger prizes for the overall league elimination event. We feel we could get some bot chain or another to help sponsor us, and we would add in prizes donated from our clan members as well.
We didn't get very far with it, but it encapsulates my thoughts completely enough that I thought I'd post it here in case there are any parts you may find useful. Further, it's not up and running yet, but our new clan website will also be running its own Gatherling soon. Once it's up, we'll probably be running this league within our clan. It's entirely possible that your forum leagues will be allowed to use our Gatherling database if you so desire... we just have to see how the final implementation gets completed.
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@grumpy about the price support I have also been thinking that for future leagues. This first league just has to be a practice round on how to run a league etc. But in the future price support would be great. I have no idea how the podcast is linked to their sponsor and if it is possible to get something from there or if we need to find new sponsors or something...