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Post by nyukon on Aug 23, 2012 18:28:50 GMT -5
Mike, Chris, and Nate discuss the value to be found in From the Vaults: Realms, the upcoming Grand Prix dates, White Weenie vs White Weenie match-ups, Delver Post, W/G Tokens, Archaeomancer, and answer some e-mails. The requisite Crack-a-Pack and Heroes of the Web are also included. It’s a White Weenie inception! This is Pauper to the People. Grand Prix dates: www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/other/082012White Weenie 1st Place: tappedout.net/mtg-decks/white-weenie-variant/White Weenie 2nd Place: tappedout.net/mtg-decks/white-weenie-v-20/Delver Post: tappedout.net/mtg-decks/delver-post/G/W Tokens: www.wizards.com/Magic/Digital/MagicOnlineTourn.aspx?x=mtg/digital/magiconline/tourn/4213098Archaeomancer Familiar Storm: www.wizards.com/Magic/Digital/MagicOnlineTourn.aspx?x=mtg/digital/magiconline/tourn/4212981Archaeomancer U/R Post: www.wizards.com/Magic/Digital/MagicOnlineTourn.aspx?x=mtg/digital/magiconline/tourn/4212966Heroes of the Web: www.reddit.com/r/science/comments/6nz1k/got_six_weeks_try_the_hundred_push_ups_training/Burning Vengeance Budget Standard: tappedout.net/mtg-decks/ur-vengeance-17/Your Host(s): Chris Plummer, Mike, and Matt Billings Show’s Email: paupertothepeople@gmail.com Show’s Twitter: @cmplummer Show’s Twitter: MatunaMTGO Account for Chris: GrayCatRecords MTGO Account for Matt: Matuna MTGO Account for Mike: mikeyk159 Show’s Facebook: www.facebook.com/paupertothepeopleShow’s Band Page: www.facebook.com/pitchthewoobandLink: www.mtgcast.com/mtgcast-podcast-shows/active-podcast-shows/pauper-to-the-people/pauper-people-72-master-impuppiments
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Post by RockBass on Aug 23, 2012 23:12:00 GMT -5
Lots of links on that one.
And.....still the old contact info?!
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Post by AetherIke on Aug 23, 2012 23:14:55 GMT -5
Nate you forgot your favorite part of the Tournament
[nohomo] there I was, a bright eyed, bushy tailed boy, never having experienced a magic tournament before, playing with my first deck ever made... An innocent boy with a head full of dreams until we met in the first round. I was thinking "oh it's some one I know... I'm so glad I don't need to have my first time with a complete stranger! surely he'll be good to me. "Oh I'm not even trying to win." Nate said, though I assume he was cackling to himself over the maniacal plans he had for this poor innocent young boy. so we played our game and had our fun until Nate played a certain combination that will not be named... and in an instant, my innocence was taken from me by forty savage elves. my response was that of a child being told that santa wasn't real... "wait... what?" and Nate just smiled evilly and relished in his moment, as if to say "the easter bunny isn't real either." to this day he recounts the story of my transformation from a innocent young boy to a broken man... and I'll never be the same [/nohomo]
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Post by nyukon on Aug 24, 2012 0:13:43 GMT -5
LOL! good one Mike I like it! I will be metioning this on the next show.
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Post by RockBass on Aug 24, 2012 14:02:53 GMT -5
Mike, that was your first tournament?
Shit, man. Sorry about that. ;D
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Post by AetherIke on Aug 24, 2012 14:20:01 GMT -5
yeah and I only own 2 decks... the other one is a lot more fun to play... but never wins ever...
otherwise I just play Peters EDH decks until I think I know what I'm doing and they disappear...
R.I.P Korlash
p.s. I checked the barnes and noble for the commander decks but they didn't have the ones I was looking for.
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Post by Mr. Kris on Aug 25, 2012 23:04:05 GMT -5
Thanks for the *SPOILER* warning Nate!!! I purposefully avoided TNT so I could watch the season straight through...
OH and Go Team Puerto Rico!!!
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Post by nyukon on Aug 26, 2012 0:58:24 GMT -5
I'm Sorry! it's still worth seeing
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Post by Mr. Kris on Aug 27, 2012 17:52:41 GMT -5
Its cool. I know not to go on Twitter on Sunday's to avoid giveaways and spoilers about Breaking Bad. I only watch five shows on TV so It's a bit hard to avoid spoilers and such.
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Post by ckangas on Aug 28, 2012 1:55:42 GMT -5
Believe it or not, that behemoth of a match was only two games. The first game went by fairly quick, and the second one dragged on to what seemed like several hours. It was a classic case of mismatched resources; I had board position and more cards in hand, but my life total was a limiting resource with multiple suture priests out - I couldn't cast the creatures in my hand to gain enough board position to start attacking. Micheal had a big lead on life, but was behind on board position and lacked evasion. I drew into life gain before he drew into GOTGs; but the game was basically paralyzed until one of us top-decked what we needed. Multiple strands from my opponent drew the game out even longer.
On a different note, I can understand Mikey K’s hesitation towards knight of sursi and other parts of the list. I would never run the list on an MTGO daily. Yet, I knew the meta would be control heavy. Knight of sursi lowers your curve (I think I hard cast it once in 12 games) and allows you to push cards through on turn 4. A turn one suspend allows you to cast a squadron hawk/other must counter spell. This nearly ensures that the control player (unless they're really on the ball) will be tapped out for when you cast obsidian/crimson acolyte. Excluding a fast crusher or another great start, this typically ensures a win against UR/UB/whatever post.
Along with being a knight and enabling war falcon (squadron hawks, matyr and GOTG are the only cards that do not), another reason for knight of sursi is that the deck is basically all flying. Doomed traveler (which makes a flyer) gideon's lawkeeper and sands are the exceptions. Lawkeeper and sands are being sided out against control and typically aren't being used to attack with anyways. Running an all-flying list renders the typical strategies used by control moot. Sea-gate oracle and phyrexian rager become overpriced cantrips, steamcore werid becomes a 4 CC shock, and chittering rats becomes a 3 CC discard. Nearly all control decks rely on the defense and CA created by their creatures. Outside things like mulldrifter and liliana's specter, running flyers takes away a huge part of a control player's game plan.
A low and aggressive curve, casting multiple relevant threats to force a game-winning one through, and evasion is how WW beats control - which is what I expected to be the overwhelming part of the meta. Knight of sursi doesn't produce CA (which can be important in control MUs), but it does everything else you need against a control deck wonderfully.
The card also performed better because of how the deck functions. Typically, WW is focused on being a midrange deck where it eventually takes over based on creature quality and consistency. The version I ran focused on all evasive creatures and ran less removal (only 2 journies and no temporal masteries/unmakes/Orings/etc.) A strategy that would suffer against goblins, but works quite well vs control.
Again, I wouldn't use the decklist for a MTGO daily, but that's the fun part of participating in paper pauper where there is a defined meta-game. 4 GOTG is also a number I would never run online, but I knew a high amount of decks there folded to a resolved one - which again, a t1 suspended knight of sursi also helps. Originally, I designed the deck to beat delver and burn (which two friends play) and have a decent to good MU against control decks with higher CC curves. Sursi was not in that list, but when I found out they wouldn't be there, I cut 4 icatian javelineers, 2 matyr of sands, 2 journey to nowhere and 2 aven riftwatchers. It should also be noted that the majority of the SB was also different. Sursi and the other GOTGs were among the 10 cards that came in for the changes.
The list and the sursi's performed great all day long. I had generally comfortable aggro matchups and I had a strong feeling combo would not be widely played (the only TPPS list I've seen had to work). If I knew there would have been a TPPS/UR storm deck out there I probably would have played a different deck (normally I play UB/UR Post, high tide, delver or MBC) or at the very least altered both the SB and MB. Overall, I went 12-0 in games for the day. Most of that was due to luck; I had generally strong 6s and 7s with only two mulls to 5 and only flooded once. I also received decent to good top-decks. As a side-note, I've been paid back in my last two FNMs with rather dismal luck. In any case, the list also helped, and it seemed in a great position to take full advantage of the meta - even if the WW list I run online looks quite different.
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