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Post by monk1410 on Mar 8, 2013 8:28:55 GMT -5
Ok so I have been working on trying to create a new combo deck ever since the bannings. This is the latest version and I would like to get some feedback. It is like the soul sisters of old but with a combo finish and a semi combo finish.
Firstly we have the obvious combo
4 Midnight Guard 4 Presence of Gond
Then we have additional combo cards
4 Devoted Druid 4 Ivy Lane Denizen
and another way to capitalize from the untapping
3 Sprout Swarm
Next we need to survive to the late game and gain infintite life if we feel like it
4 Essence Warden 4 Soul Warden
We need to protect our combo
3 Standard Bearer
And protect the fragile tokens and 1/1's
4 Veteren Armorer
and to round it off we have
4 Selesnya Evangel
So here is the list together with the manabase
4 Midnight Guard 4 Presence of Gond 4 Devoted Druid 4 Ivy Lane Denizen 3 Sprout Swarm 4 Essence Warden 4 Soul Warden 3 Standard Bearer 4 Veteren Armourer 4 Selesnya Evangel
4 Selesnya Guildgate 2 Selesnya Sanctuary 8 Forest 8 Plains
SB
3 Prismatic Strands 3 Crimson Acolyte 4 Thermokarst 2 Sunlance 3 Gleeful Sabotage
Any feedback would be great
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Post by Fan of History on Mar 10, 2013 1:23:02 GMT -5
This looks like so much fun. I am going to try this deck out in a video in the upcoming week. Will get back to you when I have done so.
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Post by yugular on Mar 10, 2013 1:52:55 GMT -5
ouch. Now I have to try this since it looks so cool! And I dont even have all the cards!!! I must buy Ramosian Rally
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Post by monk1410 on Mar 10, 2013 4:13:06 GMT -5
Thanks, if you ever want to chat about the deck I'm always online. My username is monk1410
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Post by monk1410 on Mar 10, 2013 15:06:26 GMT -5
Added Apostle's Blessing and changed the SB
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Post by cweaver on Mar 11, 2013 2:26:06 GMT -5
So after much testing with the deck, we have a big boogeyman: UR Post. They have too much removal mixed with counterspells to really make this work. I played 6 rounds against Post players, and while I'm admittedly not the creator nor the best Magic player, I never stood a chance in any game I tested, unless I lucked out with a Midnight Guard combo.
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Post by monk1410 on Mar 11, 2013 5:00:53 GMT -5
Interesting, I am 6-4 vs UR Post. I tend to play out all of my irrelevant guys like Selesnya Evangel and Veteran Armorer. Your plan really vs them is to stick an Ivy Lane Denizen as a few triggers of that and he is too big for them. Look for a situation to stick him with apostle's Blessing or Sprout Swarm backup.
I have just added Thermokarst for this matchup and to help with fissure as we had no sb help there. Ramosian Rally was cute but we are actually very good vs Electrickery
Are their any cards that would improve the deck or that have been under performing from your testing?
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Post by jaspax on Mar 11, 2013 10:17:01 GMT -5
I haven't gotten a chance to try this out yet, but I would really like to see this work. This is the sort of combo deck that I would actually play.
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Post by monk1410 on Mar 11, 2013 11:06:36 GMT -5
This looks like so much fun. I am going to try this deck out in a video in the upcoming week. Will get back to you when I have done so. So looking forward to seeing this
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Post by cweaver on Mar 12, 2013 2:14:49 GMT -5
Interesting, I am 6-4 vs UR Post. I tend to play out all of my irrelevant guys like Selesnya Evangel and Veteran Armorer. Your plan really vs them is to stick an Ivy Lane Denizen as a few triggers of that and he is too big for them. Look for a situation to stick him with apostle's Blessing or Sprout Swarm backup. I have just added Thermokarst for this matchup and to help with fissure as we had no sb help there. Ramosian Rally was cute but we are actually very good vs Electrickery Are their any cards that would improve the deck or that have been under performing from your testing? Funny enough, what I found was the weakest link in the deck... was the Soul Sisters themselves. The lifegain is good, don't get me wrong. It can be quite lifesaving, but mostly they're just 1/1's. You've won the game if you can get a decent combo going, or any of the infinite loops going. Soul Sisters don't usually help you get there any faster. They do help a bit against the Stompy and Goblins matchups. Have you considered going all out on the combo? Replace the sisters with mana dorks(Avacyn's Pilgrim/Llanowar Elves). Cast Midnight Guard turn 2, Presence turn 3. Or cast devoted Druid turn 2 with Apostle backup, then turn 3 Presense on Druid with Apostle backup, and turn 4 Ivy Lane with Apostle backup.
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Post by monk1410 on Mar 12, 2013 3:59:43 GMT -5
No I haven't tried that, would be ineteresting to test. I think you would end up with a great nut draw but do nothing a lot too. I have amended the maindeck and sb now. Apostle's blessing did not do enough for me. I added standard bearer to fill a similar roll but also help with our god awful GW enchantments game 1.
The sideboard now is
3 Prismatic Strands 3 Crimson Acolyte 4 Thermokarst 2 Sunlance (could be holy light?) 3 Gleeful Sabotage
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Post by monk1410 on Mar 12, 2013 4:01:33 GMT -5
I agree on the soul sisters being the weaker cards in the deck, but I don't think you can beat stompy/ Delver/ Goblins or any fast deck without them.
In every matchup apart from the ones named above Soul Warden comes out. But I think they are a better option for game 1 that is never really a dead card.
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Post by croquemort on Mar 14, 2013 1:53:55 GMT -5
Hey, Thanks for the Rate!
I wish I could give you a review based on actual field data, but since I'm practically internet-less (the 21st Centuary equivalent of losing an arm 100 ago) all I can give is another theortical evaulation, which is probqbly not useful in general (no offense to the others, yours' make sense, mine wouldnt).
This is a scary deck on paper. On paper, this is another combo deck that is hard for my decks to beat. On paper, me no want.
However, I kind of want to stress the danger of certain cards that I happen to play that I would side in:
(Note: Since I m not the best player, I dont always play the best cards)
Fade Away Suture Priest
I'll come back later, when I have more time and not 5 mins before teaching.
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