avery61
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Post by avery61 on Apr 30, 2013 19:04:33 GMT -5
So I posted this up in an article on MTGOStrat but thought I would throw it out here as well.
Well, I never thought I would say this….. but I hope cloudpost gets the ban hammer smack down. I have been playing cloudpost since before it was cool, but enough is enough. Ban it already, or at least kill off the storm combo. I love cloudpost, but when every other deck I’m playing is cloudpoat then what the hell. It’s either play cloudpost or get beaten by cloudpost.
I played a game against a pretty cool guy earlier & he was playing soul sisters. I was playing Shaffawaffa’s UG fissure deck. He was nailing me and I was mistake prone for some reason but I still pulled it out. He must have done more than 40 points of damage to me and, even after he got to close to 40, I was able to burn him out. That, in my definition, is broken.
So, yeah, I give up, finally, please ban cloudpost.
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Post by yugular on May 1, 2013 0:04:34 GMT -5
I would rather see ETW unbanned to be honest
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Post by blackbaron90 on May 1, 2013 7:26:44 GMT -5
when the new banned list is published?
I think that cloudpost should get the axe. Fissure itself isnt that much of a problem because it needs some heavy setup in form of mana that cloudpost generated, but with the ban of post, fissure decks are forced to play a more fair game like ug fissure storm wich can be hated more consistently than cloudpost storm decks. With an unban of etw, wizards would solve one problem by banning cloudpost, and would throw another one into the metagme with etw. So i think an unbanning is not necessary.
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Post by RockBass on May 1, 2013 14:16:40 GMT -5
I think we're at July (?) for the next ban update.
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Post by yugular on May 1, 2013 14:28:11 GMT -5
I think we're at July (?) for the next ban update. Who knows as WotC likes to switch it every now and then...
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ckangas
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Post by ckangas on May 1, 2013 18:57:26 GMT -5
I would rather see ETW unbanned to be honest I was opposed to the banning of invigorate and ETW (without banning cloudpost as well). It's still my position months later. That being said, I don't think wizards is going to bring either back. They've stated they don't want early kill to be possible. I'd rather play in a meta that includes ETW and invigorate (to punish decks that use the first 3 turns to set things up), but I think that ship has sailed. It isn't as bad now, since mono U only makes up 5-6% of the total entries. Well, assuming the match win %s are the same for the first two rounds as the last. Simic is at maybe 4%, but UG's win % has been much more in line with the other decks; ~62.5 vs 75. It's still the clear "second best" deck in the format, but we've seen lots of good decks win at a bit over 60% without destroying the format. I also don't think the deck destroying soul sisters should be cause for alarm. SSs is much more of a midrangish anti-aggro shell. It's considerably slower than any aggro deck in the format and lacks interaction; it should get destroyed by combo . In any case, as much fun as it is seeing my rating soar as I win 80% of my matches in the 2-man queues, that's always a sign the deck is broken. The last time it happened was with dark-blade in standard. Most decks I've played heavily in the last few years on MTGO have had posts in them....but I think it's time to say goodbye. Although, we might as well wait and see if there is an explosion of post players. If the deck still is only played by 5-6%, a banning may not be needed.
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Post by Fan of History on May 2, 2013 5:44:26 GMT -5
Please ban Cloudpost now.
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greystone
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Post by greystone on May 24, 2013 20:28:11 GMT -5
I have to disagree with this. After playing many many matches against various post versions I would say that Cloudpost is NOT the problem. Glimmerpost is.
Glimmer post allows the mono blue, dimir, izzet, simic... post variants to gain excessive amounts of life. Which gives most of the aggro decks out there enough pause for them to come back and establish themselves, stabilize, and then eat the aggro deck alive.
Control decks were never meant to have 'that' level of life gain be that accessible.
Another $0.02 from a Random.
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Post by Fan of History on Jun 3, 2013 7:47:16 GMT -5
Cloudpost is still around and I feel strangely drawn towards Modern right now. But, no matter, I should be able to keep up with two eternal formats.
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Post by budski on Jun 14, 2013 9:20:57 GMT -5
I have to disagree with this. After playing many many matches against various post versions I would say that Cloudpost is NOT the problem. Glimmerpost is. Glimmer post allows the mono blue, dimir, izzet, simic... post variants to gain excessive amounts of life. Which gives most of the aggro decks out there enough pause for them to come back and establish themselves, stabilize, and then eat the aggro deck alive. Control decks were never meant to have 'that' level of life gain be that accessible. Another $0.02 from a Random. I doubt that Glimmerpost would be used by anyone if Cloudpost was to get smacked round the face with the ban stick, don't people only use GP because it buffs CP?
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greystone
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Post by greystone on Jun 14, 2013 18:57:55 GMT -5
I have to disagree with this. After playing many many matches against various post versions I would say that Cloudpost is NOT the problem. Glimmerpost is. Glimmer post allows the mono blue, dimir, izzet, simic... post variants to gain excessive amounts of life. Which gives most of the aggro decks out there enough pause for them to come back and establish themselves, stabilize, and then eat the aggro deck alive. Control decks were never meant to have 'that' level of life gain be that accessible. Another $0.02 from a Random. I doubt that Glimmerpost would be used by anyone if Cloudpost was to get smacked round the face with the ban stick, don't people only use GP because it buffs CP? Not just that, but also the life gain. The life gain is more than sufficient in most cases to be able to hold off most aggressive strategies until the control deck can turn into a permissions deck. Which in My personal opinion is VERY unfun.
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