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Post by ageoffritology on Aug 10, 2013 13:03:33 GMT -5
Hi! Nice to see your deck, i was running something very similar, but not combo oriented. this made me improve, i thank you for that. i was running werebears and innocent blood but now im up to something like this: tappedout.net/mtg-decks/bequeathal-feeder/not combo oriented, more of an aggro control like deck.
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Post by mayandisaster on Aug 11, 2013 0:55:07 GMT -5
dom: i think unearth is going to be the best bet, probably. extra utility that also cycles. it makes cards like ulvenwald bear a bit better, but that is so bad on its own i doubt its worth considering.
ageoffritology: i'm not entirely sure what your deck wants to do, it looks fairly slow, and something i found in testing is that bloodthrone vampire is fairly terrible on its own. i'd need to see it in action to really say for sure, though.
i'm wondering if a strength of night zombie build could work. would require playing some bad cards like carnophage probably. suicide black was easily outclassed by other aggro decks, so i doubt it, and 4 mana is a big ask.
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Post by ageoffritology on Aug 11, 2013 9:00:08 GMT -5
Well, the main porpuse of the deck is getting in with feeder and vampire, or a howlpacked specter, while getting rid of blockers with edict and slip.
and taking out strategical cards from their hands forever with some nicely stacked mesmeric fiends.
matchups have been easy against aggros and were difficult against control or combo but after putting in the fiends it got a lil bit easier.
bloodthrone vampire is there for a second sac outlet for 2. since i run a low mana curve and need a sac outlet as soon as possible, im using bloodthrone.
it works a lot like an atog if you have a full field, they simply have to block him. and putting a howlpack on him really makes him something, cause it starts beeing a 4/4, cant be killed that easily and a 4/4 atog-like is strong, as long as i've tested.
nest invaders put so many bodies on the battlefield, especially if you unearth it, that with young wolfs bloodthrone becomes a threat that has to be blocked. still, it could be changed for other card, still dont know if conoisseur is better or if theres something better.
dont know what to put in, i thought about conoisseur but it tooks costly for a 1/1 that can be defeated as easily as a bloodthrone if you dont have a field when u drop it.
could run 3 bloodthrones and 4 nest invader though, invaders provide morbid triggers and bequeathal targets by themselves and drawing 2 of them is good, unlike vampire which becomes just feed for the other one as any other creature would
usually it is, second turn drop a bloodthrone or a feeder + youngwolf
third turn, mesmeric fiend to get something out of hand, slip to get rid of blockers and start swinhing every turn.
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Post by gedaco on Aug 12, 2013 17:52:41 GMT -5
Whould't you consider grim harvest as an answer for grindy control matchups?
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Post by ageoffritology on Aug 12, 2013 20:12:23 GMT -5
Well, i dont actually see grim harvest beeing that good here. Already running unearths to bring the creatures back, to the field without having to cast it again
the problem is getting a huge feeder returned to hand or some temporal fissure or even some crypt rats. best thing i've done against these type of control is getting the key cards away from their hands with mesmeric fiend. if i take it out forever with a smart stacked instant sacrifice of mesmeric fiend then unearth it to take a second one, its amazing. Even without a feeder, just putting a fiend makes them spend removal on your fiend to get their card back, leaving your hard hitting creatures alone and you can always unearth the fiend after they've spent their removal.
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